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The exponential growth rate of Ramsey numbers

Find lim R(k)^{1/k} for the diagonal Ramsey numbers, or even prove that the limit exists; it lies between √2 and 3.8.

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The exponential growth rate of Ramsey numbers

Every red-blue colouring of the edges of a large enough complete graph contains a red or a blue KkK_k. The smallest such size R(k)R(k) grows exponentially, between roughly 2 k\sqrt2^{\,k} and 4k4^k. Erdős asked for the exact rate: does R(k)1/kR(k)^{1/k} converge, and to what? The first exponential improvement of the upper bound came only in 2023, 88 years after the classical bound.

Problem

Let R(k)R(k) be the least nn such that every 2-colouring of the edges of the complete graph KnK_n contains a monochromatic KkK_k. Determine

lim⁡k→∞R(k)1/k,\lim_{k\to\infty} R(k)^{1/k},

and in particular prove that the limit exists.

The problem carries a $250 prize. Erdős offered $100 just for a proof that the limit exists, and $1000, later $10000, for a proof that it does not, calling that offer a joke because the limit "certainly exists".

Background

Erdős and Szekeres (1935) proved R(k)<4kR(k)<4^k, and Erdős (1947) used a random colouring to show R(k)>2k/2R(k)>2^{k/2}, one of the first applications of the probabilistic method. Together these give

2≤lim inf⁡k→∞R(k)1/k≤lim sup⁡k→∞R(k)1/k≤4.\sqrt2\le\liminf_{k\to\infty}R(k)^{1/k}\le\limsup_{k\to\infty}R(k)^{1/k}\le 4.

Neither bound moved in the exponential scale for decades. Erdős wrote that perhaps the limit is 22, "but we have no real evidence for this". His joke about an evil spirit demanding the value of R(5)R(5) or R(6)R(6), quoted on the source page, shows how hard even small cases are.

What is known

  • Lower bound. lim inf⁡R(k)1/k≥2\liminf R(k)^{1/k}\ge\sqrt2 is still the best; only the lower-order factor in Erdős's random bound has been improved.
  • Upper bound. Campos, Griffiths, Morris and Sahasrabudhe (2023; Ann. of Math. 2026) proved R(k)≤(4−ε)kR(k)\le(4-\varepsilon)^k for a constant ε>0\varepsilon>0, giving lim sup⁡R(k)1/k≤4−1128\limsup R(k)^{1/k}\le 4-\tfrac1{128}. Gupta, Ndiaye, Norin and Wei (2024) shortened the argument and optimised it to lim sup⁡R(k)1/k≤3.7992…\limsup R(k)^{1/k}\le 3.7992\ldots. Balister, Bollobás, Campos, Griffiths, Hurley, Morris, Sahasrabudhe and Tiba (2024) gave a different, shorter proof of an exponential improvement that also extends to any number of colours.
  • Whether the limit exists is unknown.

What would count as progress

  • A proof that lim⁡R(k)1/k\lim R(k)^{1/k} exists, even without its value.
  • Any improvement of the lower bound 2\sqrt2 in the exponential scale, for example a colouring of KnK_n with no monochromatic KkK_k for n=(2+δ)kn=(\sqrt2+\delta)^k, together with a proof.
  • A further reduction of the upper constant 3.79923.7992, with an argument whose optimisation step can be checked numerically.
  • A formal proof against the Lean statement in formal-conjectures.

References

  1. P. Erdős and G. Szekeres, A combinatorial problem in geometry, Compos. Math. 2 (1935), 463–470. numdam.org
  2. P. Erdős, Some remarks on the theory of graphs, Bull. Amer. Math. Soc. 53 (1947), 292–294. doi:10.1090/S0002-9904-1947-08785-1
  3. M. Campos, S. Griffiths, R. Morris and J. Sahasrabudhe, An exponential improvement for diagonal Ramsey, Ann. of Math. 203 (2026), 869–932. doi:10.4007/annals.2026.203.3.4
  4. P. Gupta, N. Ndiaye, S. Norin and L. Wei, Optimizing the CGMS upper bound on Ramsey numbers (2024). arXiv:2407.19026
  5. P. Balister, B. Bollobás, M. Campos, S. Griffiths, E. Hurley, R. Morris, J. Sahasrabudhe and M. Tiba, Upper bounds for multicolour Ramsey numbers (2024). arXiv:2410.17197

Source

Imported from Erdős Problems 77, curated by Thomas Bloom. Open according to the source as of 2026-10-20. The statement above is written in our own words; see the source for the original wording, history and discussion.